I sometimes read: “We need as many converts as we can get etc etc”. Or “I can’t find a mate?” Or you’re selfish Etc etc

I respond to a poster here:


Here: https://connect.liberty.me/natural-monopoly/

And here: Broken Link and missing article https://lifeloveliberty.liberty.me/gun-control-and-why-we-cant-talk-like-adults-anymore/

Found a copy here:http://archive.is/Us8UL

Some Excerpts here and Response to those trains of thought, which are all related:

It’s not necessary to convert nor petition others…nor is it to adopt methods of those I despise to make people do things to the extent that it is a TORN compromise [instead of self full Memnoon (I get to that See How I Freed Myself link) channeling Marshal B. Rosenberg and Harry Browne]


Nor to social engineer…nor to convince, nor to run after people, nor to be in constant mediation mode, nor to have no idea with whom and what domination education or empath voices I am dealing with.

Individuals still don’t know their own power.

Build your own model instead of fighting the existing. “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

To this day many are UNaware of spontaneous order of individuals in society and methodological individualism and human ignorance in making calculations for others.

I am imagining, guessing, exploring: That perhaps Bruce Lee and Buckminster Fuller were groking aspects of Ludwig Von Mises Human Action: spontaneous order of individuals in society and methodological individualism and human ignorance in making yes and no on the margin calculations for others. (Marginal Steps Toward a Better Life – Jeffrey Tucker [1]). I’ll get to Gandhi and Da Vinci (I think it’s here, I will check in on that…)


Indeed there are abundant not scarcity of individual ways and strategies in a division of labor society to get a value met…
Intro to DaVinci, which leads to Gandhian Communication–a new language

I am interested in this: How does this play out in my personal life and relationships? Is there a blow forward progression of order break thru waiting for me and or you to adopt in the messes?

Indeed the curiousity driven projects and conversations I involve myself in.

Is there a simple FILTER so that I don’t indeed waste my life adopting the language of expressing tragic suicidal unmet needs, although brainstorming with closet control freaks or socialists is possible with certain technology (I’ll get to that)?

Is there such a thing as phylas of natural order for self rule not no rules?

Dear Reader, if you are interested you can skip to that brief section. Which is following the link to, There is No We per se.

One school of thought leads to what I am pointing to which is each individual doing their own thing (not petitioning nor manipulating nor converting nor controlling)


ALSO happen to create a path thru the forest of complexity of Group Traps, which includes such things as self correcting pricing, making and delivering bread or say private security and/or space, energy, time, creative Non Violent Communication where solutions find you and others, to a whole community, city of individuals,  which was not the intention of each individual nor within their capability as one individual to dictate;


AND the OTHER school is social engineering command control theorists who support the state ignorance of and interference of and destruction of spontaneous order that manifests thru methodological individualism.

Adam Smith may not have been the first economist, as he is sometimes called. But more than any other social philosopher he popularized the notion that human beings, left free to pur- sue their own goals, would give rise to a social order that none of them had consciously planned. As Smith famously put it in The Wealth of Nations, free man acts as if “led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention.”

…French economist Frédéric Bastiat remarked on the wonder of that stufefying phenomenon by exclaiming, “Paris gets fed!” Economics did not create that regularity, nor is it faced with the task of proving that it exists—we see it in front of us every day. Eco- nomics, rather, must explain how it comes about.

Enter the die hard skeptics:…For many, the feeling of stupefaction was soon replaced by one of frustration. They had ideas for reforming society, and now they discovered that the emerging science of economics stood in their way. Economics advised these reformers that some plans for social organization would fail regardless of how well they were carried out, because the plans violated basic laws of human interaction.

Temporarily Stopped in their tracks by the achievements of the early economists, some of these reformers, such as Karl Marx, attempted to invalidate the entire subject. Economists, Marx contended, were simply describing society as they found it under the domination of the capitalists. There are no economic truths that apply to all men in all times and places; most specif- ically, the laws formulated by the classical school, by writers such as Smith, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo, will not apply to those living in the future socialist utopia. In fact, said the Marxists, these thinkers were merely apologists for the exploitation of the masses by the wealthy few. The classical economists were, to phrase it in the style of the Chinese Marx- ists, running dog lackeys of the imperialist warmonger pigs.

The extent to which Marx and like-minded thinkers suc- ceeded in their goal of undermining the foundations of eco- nomics reflected the fragility of those foundations. The classi- cal economists had discovered many economic truths, but they were plagued by certain inconsistencies in their own theories, such as their inability to construct a coherent theory of value. (We will address this specific difficulty in more detail later.)


It was Mises, building on the work of earlier Austrian econ- omists such as Carl Menger, who finally reconstructed eco- nomics “upon the solid foundation of a general theory of human action. P19 thru 21 EFRP…

Check out Wendy Mcelroy’s “The Art of Being Free” and Gene Callahan’s “Economics for Real People”. The latter is free at Mises.org the other can be purchased anywhere or free at Jeffrey Tucker’s Liberty.me. See upcoming links

P. 44 of Wendy McElroy’s ebook “The Art of Being Free”: provided byliberty.me:
“…ORDER espoused by Mises and Hayek was a spontaneous one in which individuals pursued their own diverse interests without coordination by a central authority. What does such an order look like?”

As it pertains. I was reviewing this recently: Denver DA Creates Countless Fully Informed Jurors

Excerpt: It occurs to me that perhaps it begins to look like a few individuals peacefully passing out a gift: pamphlets for jury nullification at a court house not to fight govt, not convert others, but to provide information…

And Yes the MORE the central authourity interfere with that need for autonomy to give and receive a gift of care, support, collaboration, and contribution, the more individuals appear, awaken, and Leave By Their own preferences, interests and actions. This is far cry from converting and manipulating and social engineering.

And yet No it is not how I would secure my freedom. It smacks too much of petitioning others as it pertains to this: “To secure freedom requires intelligence. It must be comprehended and self—asserted. To petition for it is to stultify oneself, for a petitioner is a confessed subject and lacks the spirit of a freeman. To rail and rant against tyranny is to manifest inferiority, for there is no tyranny but ignorance; to be conscious of one’s powers is to lose consciousness of tyranny. Self government is not a remote aim. It is an intimate and inescapable fact. To govern oneself is a natural imperative, and all tyranny is the miscarriage of self government. The first requisite of freedom is to accept responsibility for the lack it!



Mathew Reece posted this as it relates https://liberty.me/discuss/t/tucker-vs-cantwell-on-refugees/

And I posted this:
Natural laws playing out. Spontaneous order looks chaotic. However there IS a self correcting taking place here. Both Tucker and Cantwell offer strategies, mind sets etc. Jeffrey is pointing out that NON INTERFERENCE with migration will allow individuals to sort out what Statism deems impossible without command control, social engineering etc

Cantwell has fallen for the WE have an emergency what are WE going to do? And the We-ist traps that come from such!

There is no WE! https://Tinyurl.com/there-is-no-we per se.

How does this play out in one’s personal life and relationships?

Is this possible in that context?

P. 44 of Wendy McElroy’s ebook “The Art of Being Free”: provided byliberty.me:
“…order espoused by Mises and Hayek was a spontaneous one in which individuals pursued their own diverse interests without coordination by a central authority. What does such an order look like?”

It occurs to me such order looks like how I make it possible to play to Jeffrey Tucker’s ideas on Methodological Individualism as it relates to Wendy Mcelroy’s [Mises Human Action] Spontaneous Order by mindful and respectful connection that others live on the margin (marginal utility) with different yes or no preferences and strategies as it relates to each ones needs/values to be heard, what’s important, safety, peace and implicitly the strategy of the NAP, Non Aggression Principle, and Non Violent Communication. Can such spontaneous order Flow emanate from Methodological Individualism?


See Marginal Steps Toward a Better Life – Jeffrey Tucker – Liberty.me https://tucker.liberty.me/marginal-steps–toward-a-better–life/Proxy  Highlight




Using Marshal B. Rosenberg’s Giraffe Ears and Language Technology I describe and relate Observations and Actions predicated on Facts and Connection…and other aspects to make it relatively easy to see, hear, feel, value and request IN THE MOMENT such that when BOTH our Needs are known there is Relief, from which the Solution will find us within 20 minutes…


…It’s as if I had an on going Spontaneous Sonar or X ray and surfing capability to use my intellect empathically to hear, see thru DIFFERENCES in education, rationality and beliefs (Strategies) to be able to recap, understand and INTERACT with what’s driving a situation: i.e. their and or my core values even if the person does not know what empathy is.


Watch “FULL – Nonviolent Communication Workshop – Marshall Rosenberg (2000) (Multi Subtitles)” on YouTube


And then building on that and with NVC–based on work and standing on shoulders of Carl Rogers, Gandhi and King–such power conduits, mind sets, languages…as Harry Browne’s “How I Found Freedom and NAP in an UnFree World”;


AND Darrell Becker’s Silent Non Violent Mediation and Communication merged with Trivium Method and Progress by Incremental Improvement and Prototyping (PIIP™), such that insights and strategies are facilitated and allowed to surface and come together. In so doing that they are Spontaneuosly more productive and profitable and Orderly on many UNpredictable levels than could be expected or dictated by either of the individuals wedded to social engineering, command control, group traps, petitioning or converting or demanding equal effects from unequal causes etc. It makes a difference who you surrounded yourself with first and foremost and how you connect in these environs!! [3]

The question becomes how do I get out of dreaming and design and start to build a power tools and conduits to FILTER those who already subscribe to Spontaneous Order and Methodological Individualism Philosophy of Liberty that I can trade with?

That makes that possible to be around those who want me to be free? Indeed a natural monopoly such that contracts other than a hand shake are redundant? And such that mistakes can be pointed to and resolved without contracts.

I have been PIIP™ing that–Progress via Incremental Improvement and Prototyping–Here: How I Freed Myself.


Here: https://connect.liberty.me/gordon-lightfoot-marshal-rosenberg-and-my-connection/

It is the way I live and the way I personally live in relationships as it pertains to

P. 44 of Wendy McElroy’s ebook “The Art of Being Free”: provided by liberty.me:
“…order espoused by Mises and Hayek was a spontaneous one in which individuals pursued their own diverse interests without coordination by a central authority. What does such an order look like?”

1. Marginal Steps Toward a Better Life – Jeffrey Tucker – Liberty.me
https://tucker.liberty.me/marginal-steps–toward-a-better–life/Proxy  Highlight

The Art of Being Free by Wendy Mcelroy

Gene Callahan’s “Economics for Real People”


3.1 https://connect.liberty.me/the-people-dont-know-their-true-power/

3.2 https://connect.liberty.me/natural-monopoly/ (replace monopoly with order)

3.3 https://connect.liberty.me/polyamory-is-next-and-im-one-reason-why-heres-how-libertarianism-has-led-me/

A Direct Alternative is one that requires only direct action by yourself to get a desired result. An indirect alternative requires that you act to make someone else do what is necessary to achieve your objective. ~ HarryBrowne  How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World


I am becoming progressively less stupid without the perjorative as it relates spontaneous order and methodological individualism. The question of a FILTER for liberty lovers and living in that space is addressed here and here

I’ve been PIIP™ing that–Progress via Incremental Improvement and Prototyping–Here: How I Freed Myself.

And Here is how I CONNECT with those in and outside that space…

Here: https://connect.liberty.me/gordon-lightfoot-marshal-rosenberg-and-my-connection/

And Here: https://connect.liberty.me/the-art-and-language-of-becoming-progressively-less-stupid-without-the-pejorative/

More Notes:

I ask, are the individuals in govt becoming progressively less stupid? Does the institution of govt incubate less stupidity?


The whole time I was listening to the Harris County DA I was asking myself what am I MISSING?

Well now I know! AND you will too!

Let’s compare notes?

1. Regarding: EVERYONE needs to adopt Harris County DA’s concerns and claims and come forward and join law enforcement.

That’s clearly not the case nor a strategy need in Proto Dystopian Detroit. Didn’t Detroit go bankrupt? No paycheck no DA and LEO’s? Good riddance! And yet there IS  protection from a private security company!

But wait, is this a request by Harris County DA on youtube to come forward and join with LEOs to be Deputized?

No Dear Reader, perish the thought.

A town of deputized citizens would have equal standing to the deputies? Can’t have that. That’s going too far!

The DA is playing the let’s be reasonable folks and the martyr card and allegiance to “nation” state as a citizen. The card they play when things start to be seen for what they are.

But as I pointed in prior post without reciprocal serve and protect there is NO duty nor allegiance of the citizen to a “nation” state…they know this.

Listen to the DA and watch her now that you know this!

How does it feel to be duped? This retired sheriff comes forward, and comes up with and shares an equivalent to handing out jury nullification pamphlets.

Although in this case I do not recommend it. It is too much like sticking the finger out and taunting a bull with a red flag!

“What a motorist should[might choose for himself to] do when stopped by a police officer [as preferable strategy to his own dissatisfaction]”
By Walter E. Block


It’s a shell game…they need us to sanction the institution. If I know why and how then the spellbinding is broken! And if I see thru it and others do, it begins to add up to many awakened individuals.

OK ok we have got some bad apples but we are the good (we hope you do not realize we extort you) and need your [blind] support and sanction…

We need to trial ballon whether you will Mourn and Honor our fallen (bad apples) and Celebrate our services that you are forced to pay for at the point of a gun, but which falls outside any directed productive use to you citizens (we actually don’t serve and protect you) but we will happily act on SWATing or CPSing your neighbours and their kids and seperating you or them from your or their property in myriad ways…

How’s that for the false alternative of your money or your life?

Will the DA stop being a DA? Will LEO’s go on strike? No not as of this moment but what if they keep loosing LEO’s and bankrupting cities?

PPT Plunge Protection Team is unable to hold up markets any more. Confidence of the people in the statist quo system is waning.


Perhaps LEO’s and DA will not have a regular paycheck anymore even with a magical printing machine and world reserve status.

Surprise! Different means same ends. No paycheck, no LEO’s. No LEO’s no DA…

And to excaberate this townsfolk and private peace officers ARE DOING for themselves what DA and LEO’s dictate as their reason d’etre but infact do not do!

It’s not looking pretty for these guys. People are seeing thru the pretense,  spectacle, presumptiousness and duplicity.

The following are the very opposite of the Harris County’s DA and LEO concerns, claims and resultant CHAOS…

The DA and LEO’s have become redundant!

In Addition:

2. The Sagra Model in Russia; a town took out a drug cartel on its own and nation state did a Volte-face: Fired 200,000 LEO’s.

3. A German version of the Sagra Model where 30,000 LEO’s guarding a train loaded with radioactive cargo, begged for relief after getting led into the forest by farmers…

4. A western version of the Sagra Model: Recent Lakota and Navajo and Bundy Ranch personal goals that could spark a similar model.

5. What people do naturally which is unofficial version of Sagra Model …

This they wanted to do and did not need a leader or DA or the foot soldiers to do force them. Same in proto-dystopian Detroit with local private police services.

Instead of Social Engineering others using LEO’s and DA’s they are taking care of themselves and as a result providing actual verifiable documented natural peaceful respectful order one person at a time under conditions “nation” state officials dictate as impossible…

Ref: “There are criminals here who might rob you, kidnap you and murder you [LEOs], **so you’ll get free bodyguard service anytime you’re in the neighborhood**”.