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Liberty Unbound for some.

Liberty Unbound for some.


A US World War I poster (Harry R. Hopps; 1917) invites prospective recruits to symbolically save a [Group of] “damsel[s] in distress” from the [depicted] monstrous SOLDIER (German that time) and you know where chivalry and gallantry without integrating Ayn Rand and Larken Rose got them I.E. The Sanction of The Victim (Ayn Rand) AND The MOST DANGEROUS SUPERSTITION: The Belief In Authority (Larken Rose].

Where Have All The SOLDIERS Gone?

“Gone to graveyards, every one.
When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?”

Where have YOU GONE?

[STOP] Being Played 

by Jim Davidson

Indeed “It is only prudent never to place COMPLETE CONFIDENCE in that by which we have even once been DECIEVED.”
—Rene Descartes

Stop being played…

Imagine the consciously constructed narrative that would LEAD YOU to a BETTER place with better people.

…IMAGINE The STORY of YOU being written by not YOUR own hand alone…but by standing on the shoulders of the best fiction and non-fiction you can progress…

I LIKE people who can explain and DO things better, using more Reason and Logic and Imagination than their “peers” (who are usually more intent on “defending” the status quo, with untenable, illogical or just plain wrong ideas about things).

Historical figures like Aristotle, Copernicus, Leonardo daVinci, John Locke and Thomas Jefferson come readily to mind. (See my Profile for contemporaries).

Where I live is Where I stand. I personally INTEGRATED the PIIP™ Progress Via  Incremental Improvement and Prototyping methodology into my own life and used it to turn a 1 year sabbatical into a 10 year journey on “Freedom Road” traveling the USA living on a bus”…

Autodidactism is…a…[learnable process], and it doesn’t require massive [left hemisphere] brainpower…[but I’ve found left and right differentiation integration given brain plasticity and mind as emergent energy attributes and being immersed and in it including somatic lingo…]

Just thinking faster than the next person does not matter terribly much if the other guy spends a little extra time accessing both hemispheres. [Which I’ve found gets faster although its not my focus…]

The CRUCIAL thing about genius [autodidacts] is not mental speed [Paul Rosenberg interest]; it’s that…[autodidacts] learn something CRUCIAL: They can be RIGHT when EVERYONE ELSE is wrong! [Again Not how I think of things but interesting enough that I will leave this template here for now]

The kid who is hated for being smart can’t escape this fact, and so he or she (if NOT too damaged by [not] the experience [per se] [but whether has tools to understand the situation and speak to it, tend to it as a part without flooding the whole, release it]) becomes familiar with thinking independently [autonomously and yet relationally with oneself and reality]…


What’s referred to, is learnable and can be accessed and used here: How I FOUND Freedom in an Unfree World on many levels.


Seven Shocking Things That You Almost Certainly Didn’t Know


Thomas Sowell gets to the heart of the issue of American Politics: Instead of being Politically Correct [Rick Rule and Kolomona], try being curious…I.E. I am EXPLORING!

It is amazing how many different ways the same thing can be said, creating totally different impressions…

Politics produces lots of words that can mean very different things, if you stop and think about them.

But politicians depend on the fact that many people DO NOT bother to stop and think about them and take ideas straight (Ayn Rand taught me that). Many believe her work was juvenile…yet it is her ideas that raised me from the juvenile status statist quo to the heroic simple sophisticate, without being a player or played (pawn to the elites)

We often hear that various problems within the black community are “a legacy of slavery.” That phrase is in widespread use among people who believe in the kinds of welfare state programs that began to dominate government policies in the 1960s.

Blaming SOCIAL problems TODAY on “a legacy of slavery” or jumping right over that identification are another way of saying, “Don’t blame our welfare state policies for things that got worse after those policies took over. Blame what happened in earlier centuries.”

Nobody would accept that kind of cop-out, if it were expressed that way. But that is why it is expressed (or implied) differently, as a “legacy of slavery.”

If we [I] were being SERIOUS, instead of being [“my team vs your team”] political, we [I] could look at the facts…

Are these individuals Stupid? No. It takes fairly clever people to make something sound plausible. But it also requires people who don’t bother to [pause] stop and think, who enable them to get away with it…

Although often it’s best to walk away…as many times its not your problem. Not something can help with…


PART I. Well, I am past beginning to wonder about a certain billionaire Rick Rule on

The Truth

So long as there is widespread gullibility, there will be charlatans ready to exploit it for their own benefit, EITHER Politically and/or Financially.

The Social Justice Warriors learnt their lessons well from the Eco freaks. Taking small issues of the norm and making it the grinding issue of the day.

I’m NOT part of the Cupcake Generation. And apparently NEITHER are: Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock who NO longer perform their work on college campuses.

Seinfeld even had some 20 yr old nit wit write him a letter instructing him on the proper way to deliver Comedy to an audience.

Regarding: //@pairwise Ty Gander: This has the potential to be a very interesting discussion [about rights] however vitriol and deleted replies add nothing. Not really non-aggression at that point.//

Re: //@pairwise Ty Glander replied 25 minutes ago
All that is well and good for a general discussion but, for the purposes of how would ‘you’ explain rights to [a 30+ year old American equivalent of] a 10 year old it is less useful. It is similar to the the adage of technically correct but, functionally useless.//

Ref://@sufi Michael Bunch May 5, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Mal, you’re free to express your mind however you like. But Kolomona is also free to walk away from conversing with you as well. That is the way freedom works, correct//

Re:// @sufi Michael Bunch replied 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Mal, I can’t speak to whether or not your comments were deleted. I can only address that which I mentioned beforehand. Civility is a cornerstone of and has been since its inception, and that went hand-in-hand with it being a paid-for site. While now it is free, I think as a whole we as members still have that expectation and therefore don’t post in the manner that they may do elsewhere, like Facebook or Reddit. If that expectation isn’t met, then people may not want to pursue argumentation with you.//

Re:// @rrule Rick Rule [a so called billionaire and benefactor of] replied 1 hour ago
@sufi Very well said Michael//

Re:// The reason I [Kolomona] choose an American 10 year old is because I [she] believe that most 30+ year old Americans do not have a clue to what a right is.//[1]


My Response:

You and Kolamona are switching context. 
As a 30 year old who is 10 years old and can’t walk away, think?
•• And/Or as a 10 year old who is 30 years old?
••• And/Or a 10 year old who is 10?
•••• And/Or a 30 year old who is 30?
••••• And ONLY Most Americans? 
And using and assuming 5 different meanings. And not distinguishing between them.
This makes good puns but piss poor logic in serious discussions.
Perhaps the Government like Argument “for the chiiiildren” is a poor justification for anything…
To ask the question is to answer it…
[Ref: Part III below] …
I initially responded to “Please help me define a right”* [1] and I immediately realized I had stepped into a Multiple Front minefield on
Re:  //…’If a random 10 year old kid [i.e. Kolomona who “believes that most 30+ year old Americans do not have a clue to what a right is”] asked you this question [*] would you MAKE them watch this video? Would you MAKE them watch this video? [2] [The Philosophy of Liberty Video Ref Article Part II.]// [Emphasis Added]
I don’t want to MAKE them [demand, initiate force on] Kolomona AND her “for the chiiiildren” obfuscations and damsels in distress SJW heroes do anything.
And so I leave her and them, in each other’s bird’s of a feather hands to sort this FUBAR out…
I left the discussion REALIZING that to remain would be to demand equal effects from UNequal causes. I do have own my life and not hers and do have alternatives outside of Kolomona’s  “for the chiiiildren” burning issue traps…
“A Direct alternative is one that requires only direct action by yourself to get a desired result. An indirect alternative requires that you act to make someone else do what is necessary to achieve your objective”.
“If you’re not being treated as you want to be treated, it’s your vulnerability that must be changed. You could spend the rest of your life trying to educate the others, to change their natures and values, to get them to respect your rights. But you probably wouldn’t succeed.
It always makes more sense to concentrate on the direct alternatives — the things you do control. What others do is up to them, but there’s always a great deal you can do. Choose from the alternatives that require only your decision — not from among the many hopes that someone will be something other than what he is.
To rely on your rights or on your ability to change others is far less promising than to rely upon yourself”.
Ref: P 76 HarryBrowne/How I Found Freedom in an UnfreeWorld
“The Rights Trap
The Rights Trap is the belief that your rights will make you free.
It’s not hard to fall into this trap and become preoccupied with your rights as a way of getting what you want.
You’ve probably heard since childhood that you have certain rights — to life, liberty, property, the freedom to pursue your happiness.
In addition, it’s easy to feel that someone owes you certain things in a relationship — such as respect, honesty, or fair play.
Unfortunately, rights exist only in theory. In practice, they don’t accomplish much — no matter how much people may discuss them.
By implication, a right to something means that someone else must provide that something, whether or not he wants to. A right to your property, for instance, means that you should be allowed to keep your property — even if others want to take it. A right to a job means that someone must provide a job for you even if he prefers not to.
Rights are invoked only when there’s a conflict of interest. Otherwise, there’s no need for them.
One reason it’s so easy to walk into the Rights Trap is that it sometimes seems to be the only way to deal with a conflict. But that’s only one of three methods of handling such situations.
You can:
1. 1. Rely upon your rights to get you what you want.
2. 2. Find a way to make it in the other person’s self-interest to provide what you want.
3. 3. Find a way of getting what you want without his being involved.
In my experience, I’ve been involved in many situations in which the second or the third method has worked for me. But I’ve never found a situation in which the first method has been useful.
We’ve seen that an individual acts in ways he believes will provide the most happiness for himself, based upon his own knowledge of the alternatives available. He’ll do what you want him to do only when he thinks that’s the best alternative for him. If he thinks there are better alternatives for him, he won’t do what you want.
It’s as simple as that”.
However, just like terms can be too broad and vague i.e. rights, so can “do not steal” be too simplistic. Do not steal is NICE but not enough and not adequate for long term living…
[C. Part IV]
I also recommend David Montgomery’s 3 part work [D Part IV]

Watch “Stop Listening to People’s Bullsh**! – Anthony Gucciardi” on YouTube

1. Watch “George Carlin – Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.……………..” on YouTube

2. Watch “How Universities Silence Truth—And What We Can Do About It | Thomas J. DiLorenzo” on YouTube

3. It is “The belief in ‘authority’ which includes all belief in ‘government’ [and their mantras that] is irrational and self-contradictory; it is [that which is] contrary to civilization and morality, and [that] constitutes the most dangerous, destructive superstition that has ever existed. Rather than [PC SJW thought police control freaks] being a force for order and justice, the belief in ‘authority’ is the arch-enemy of humanity. – Larken Rose, page 2 of “The Most Dangerous Superstition”.

Free pdf: Larken Rose – The Most Dangerous Superstition –

(Typos in the free copy.)

Brutalism, thin libertarianism and NVC nonviolent communication tolerance is apparently for everyone else, so that Rick Rule so called benefactor and billionaire and his team can be PC SJW a******s and thought police control freaks. No surprises there. Thanks for coming out!

Watch “How to Deal with HATERS – Anthony Gucciardi” on YouTube

PBS: Think Tank: Transcript for “The Vision of the Anointed”

Tom Sowell, why don’t you start out and tell us what ‘The Vision of the Anointed’ is about. What is it?

MR. SOWELL: Well, it’s, one, a vision that the problems that we see in the world are due to the fact that other people are just not as bright or as compassionate as they are…

Who is they?

MR. SOWELL: Oh, the media elite, the academic elite, political elites...

Watch “Thomas Sowell. The Vision of The Anointed” on YouTube

Watch “Thomas Sowell — Dismantling America” on YouTube

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I left Kolomona’s blog thread.

Dont feed the troll

The problem statements Kolomona presents ALONG WITH her PC SJW thought police control freaks such as Rick Rule and gang have actually already been SOLVED for some individuals!! Let us continue…

So what happens when really smart people build rocket ships instead of protesting gravity?

My focus is on those who want to help themselves instead of those who might as well be government.



I responded to [1] “Please help me define a right” and I stepped into a multiple front minefield on here and in Part I. by Kolomona

KISS. Once I started to walk away I found the following in a matter of minutes. How INCONVENIENT!!

A. The Philosophy Of Liberty (POL) in 30 languages

The Philosophy of Liberty and its companion book on free markets were BANNED (Censored) by the United States Education Dept.

B. The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible A Free Market Odyssey Book in 30 languages.

free PDF download – The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible

They were BANNED (Censored) in the schools in Hawaii, where they were locally put together by a Professor for himself and his young Hawaiian daughter.

Indeed they had to be SNUCK into Cuba, Iran and China and a host of others but it was never the less EMBRACED in 30 countries!

Apparently offering it here today For Free in the United States continues to be REBUKED…No surprise there…

Re:  [1] //The reason I [Kolomona] choose an American 10 year old is because I believe that most 30+ year old Americans do not have a clue to what a right is.//


Re: //…If a random 10 year old kid [i.e. Kolomona “believes that most 30+ year old Americans do not have a clue to what a right is”] asked you this question [*] would you MAKE them watch this video? Would you MAKE them watch this video?[The Philosophy of Liberty Video See Part II. A. Above]// [2] [Emphasis Added]

My response is: ‘WOW!! Is THAT what is meant by “projecting one’s own values onto others”?”


“Have you ever read a single book on the other side of that issue?”


Here are two completely different mind sets, attitudes and behaviors:

[2] “Kolomona I’m not asking for myself. If a random 10 year old kid asked you this question [*] would you make them watch this video? Would you make them watch this video?[*] Would you use words such as “inviolable” and “Coercion”. Most 10 year old Americans would not understand these things. Maybe I’m not doing a good job of asking this question.” 


By making my life better i.e. Voting with my feet–My children’s lives automatically START in better place.

Of course they have free will, and they are free to screw it up as much as they want.

There is no WE!

I am an individual as are my children. Even with children, (there is no We), living their lives for them puts one in a controlling position. One might as well be government.

What about all the people who don’t have children? Hell, half the population don’t have children. Look at all the children and young adults who don’t have children.

Kolomona’s and her PC SJW thought police’s control freaks WHOLE ARGUMENT falls apart for lack of children! Or perhaps it’s too many children? LOL!!

Perhaps the Government Argument “for the chiiiildren” is a poor justification for anything…

To ask the question is to answer it.


C. Just like terms can be too broad and vague i.e. rights, so can “do not steal” be too simplistic. Do not steal is NICE but not enough and not adequate for long term living

“Keep your word” is insufficient as Marxists will keep their word i.e. their promise to ENSLAVE you.

NAP is a moral statement. People are misusing it as a political statement. It is not intended to provide the details, it’s intended to judge the details. As one example: the moral statement does not speak to self defense, where as a political statement of it explicitly does.

Good Ideas don't require Force

Galt’s Oath, NAP Non-Aggression Principle & The Covenant

This begs the introduction of the Bare Minimum.

Any thing less than The Covenant is NOT adequate as discussed above.

What about assault? Or property laws?

Anything more than The Covenant can be covered by Blackstones.

In the Bare Minimum Dennis Wilson discusses the relationship between the covenant, merchant law and black stones (The Covenant of Unanimous Consent provides the means by which individuals can and should judge, accept, modify or reject particular instances of Merchant Law and Blackstone’s).

Like Merchant law This is very personal, it is about **Self Responsibility**. They didn’t ask others to do it for them!

…In my postings and articles I have attempted to show how I think the Covenant [creates a new model INSTEAD of fighting the existing]… problems with the current government, [and thereby integrates ]…issues that Lysander Spooner, Ayn Rand, L. Neil Smith identified”.

“The Covenant of Unanimous Consent reintroduces the idea of **Personal Responsibility** INSTEAD of relying upon “other”, delegated people (government) to “MAKE”, care for and ENFORCE sensible and rational laws.”

“What **IS* the ABSOLUTE BARE MINIMUM that Voluntary Groups of any size–two people or more–need to agree upon, in order to live together peacefully and productively?*” by Dennis Lee Wilson

It is How I Freed Myself. Using The Covenant of Unanimous Consent and How I FOUND Freedom in an Unfree World.

D. I recommend David Montgomery’s work.

In Search of Rights
The U.N. to the Rescue!
Universal Obligation
The Never-Ending Rights Debate
Rights, Unicorns, and Entitlement Culture
Golden Rule to the Rescue?
Freedom and Property Rights
Giving Up the Myth
The Lesson

It All Starts with Sleep
News Is the Same Old Story
Hang with Feel-Good Peeps
How to Instantly Look and Feel Better
Exercise Is Amazing…And Dangerous
Death to Diet Dogma
What About the Money?
Master Life’s Most Useful Skill
The Best Technology for Feeling Good Is Free
Travel Opens Hearts and Minds


Notes: 2007-05-18

E. “Human Rights” as Property Rights

Tags Legal System Philosophy and Methodology Private Property

 Murray N. Rothbard

[This article is excerpted from chapter 15 of The Ethics of Liberty. Listen to this article in MP3.]

Liberals generally wish to preserve the concept of “rights” for such “human” rights as freedom of speech, while denying the concept to private property.1 And yet, on the contrary the concept of “rights” only makes sense as property rights. For not only are there no human rights which are not also property rights, but the former rights lose their absoluteness and clarity and become fuzzy and vulnerable when property rights are not used as the standard.

In the first place, there are two senses in which property rights are identical with human rights: one, that property can only accrue to humans, so that their rights to property are rights that belong to human beings; and two, that the person’s right to his own body, his personal liberty, is a property right in his own person as well as a “human right.” But more importantly for our discussion, human rights, when not put in terms of property rights, turn out to be vague and contradictory, causing liberals to weaken those rights on behalf of “public policy” or the “public good.” As I wrote in another work:

Take, for example, the “human right” of free speech. Freedom of speech is supposed to mean the right of everyone to say whatever he likes. But the neglected question is: Where? Where does a man have this right? He certainly does not have it on property on which he is trespassing. In short, he has this right only either on his own property or on the property of someone who has agreed, as a gift or in a rental contract, to allow him on the premises. In fact, then, there is no such thing as a separate “right to free speech”; there is only a man’s property right: the right to do as he wills with his own or to make voluntary agreements with other property owners.2

In short, a person does not have a “right to freedom of speech”; what he does have is the right to hire a hall and address the people who enter the premises. He does not have a “right to freedom of the press”; what he does have is the right to write or publish a pamphlet, and to sell that pamphlet to those who are willing to buy it (or to give it away to those who are willing to accept it). Thus, what he has in each of these cases is property rights, including the right of free contract and transfer which form a part of such rights of ownership. There is no extra “right of free speech” or free press beyond the property rights that a person may have in any given case.

Furthermore, couching the analysis in terms of a “right to free speech” instead of property rights leads to confusion and the weakening of the very concept of rights. The most famous example is Justice Holmes’s contention that no one has the right to shout “Fire” falsely in a crowded theater, and therefore that the right to freedom of speech cannot be absolute, but must be weakened and tempered by considerations of “public policy.”3  And yet, if we analyze the problem in terms of property rights we will see that no weakening of the absoluteness of rights is necessary.4

For, logically, the shouter is either a patron or the theater owner. If he is the theater owner, he is violating the property rights of the patrons in quiet enjoyment of the performance, for which he took their money in the first place. If he is another patron, then he is violating both the property right of the patrons to watching the performance and the property right of the owner, for he is violating the terms of his being there. For those terms surely include not violating the owner’s property by disrupting the performance he is putting on. In either case, he may be prosecuted as a violator of property rights; therefore, when we concentrate on the property rights involved, we see that the Holmes case implies no need for the law to weaken the absolute nature of rights.

Indeed, Justice Hugo Black, a well-known “absolutist” on behalf of “freedom of speech,” made it clear, in a trenchant critique of the Holmes “shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theater” argument, that Black’s advocacy of freedom of speech was grounded in the rights of private property. Thus Black stated:

I went to a theater last night with you. I have an idea if you and I had gotten up and marched around that theater, whether we said anything or not, we would have been arrested. Nobody has ever said that the First Amendment gives people a right to go anywhere in the world they want to go or say anything in the world they want to say. Buying the theater tickets did not buy the opportunity to make a speech there. We have a system of property in this country which is also protected by the Constitution. We have a system of property, which means that a man does not have a right to do anything he wants anywhere he wants to do it. For instance, I would feel a little badly if somebody were to try to come into my house and tell me that he had a constitutional right to come in there because he wanted to make a speech against the Supreme Court. I realize the freedom of people to make a speech against the Supreme Court, but I do not want him to make it in my house.

That is a wonderful aphorism about shouting “fire” in a crowded theater. But you do not have to shout “fire” to get arrested. If a person creates a disorder in a theater, they would get him there not because of what he hollered but because he hollered. They would get him not because of any views he had but because they thought he did not have any views that they wanted to hear there. That is the way I would answer not because of what he shouted but because he shouted.5

Some years ago, the French political theorist Bertrand de Jouvenel similarly called for the weakening of free speech and assembly rights in what he called the “chairman’s problem” — the problem of allocating time or space in an assembly hall or newspaper, or in front of a microphone, where the writers or speakers believe that they have a “right” of free speech to the use of the resource.6  What de Jouvenel overlooked was our solution to the “chairman’s problem” — recasting the concept of rights in terms of private property rather than in terms of freedom of speech or assembly.

In the first place, we may notice that in each of de Jouvenel’s examples — a man attending an assembly, a person writing to a letters-to-the-editor column, and a man applying for discussion time on the radio — the scarce time or space being offered is free, in the sense of costless. We are in the midst of what economics calls “the rationing problem.” A valuable, scarce resource has to be allocated: whether it be time at the podium, time in front of the microphone, or space in a newspaper. But since the use of the resource is free (costless), the demand for obtaining this time or space is bound greatly to exceed the supply, and hence a perceived “shortage” of the resource is bound to develop. As in all cases of shortages and of queueing up caused by low or nonexistent prices, the unsatisfied demanders are left with a feeling of frustration and resentment at not obtaining the use of the resource they believe they deserve.

A scarce resource, if not allocated by prices, must be allocated in some other way by its owner. It should be noted that the de Jouvenel cases could all be allocated by a price system, if the owner so desired. The chairman of an assembly could ask for price bids for scarce places at the podium and then award the places to the highest bidders. The radio producer could do the same with discussants on his program. (In effect, this is what producers do when they sell time to individual sponsors.) There would then be no shortages, and no feelings of resentment at a promise (“equal access” of the public to the column, podium, or microphone) reneged.

But beyond the question of prices, there is a deeper matter involved, for whether by prices or by some other criterion, the resource must, in all cases, be allocated by its owner. The owner of the radio station or the program (or his agent) rents, or donates, radio time in a way that he decides; the owner of the newspaper, or his editor-agent, allocates space for letters in any way that he chooses; the “owner” of the assembly, and his designated agent the chairman, allocates the space at the podium in any way he decides.

The fact that ownership is the ultimate allocator gives us the clue to the property solution of de Jouvenel’s “chairman’s problem.” For the fellow who writes a letter to a newspaper is not the owner of the paper; he therefore has no right to, but only a request for, newspaper space, a request which it is the absolute right of the owner to grant or to deny. The man who asks to speak at an assembly has no right to speak, but only a request that the owner or his representative, the chairman, must decide upon. The solution is to recast the meaning of the “right to freedom of speech” or “assembly”; instead of using the vague, and, as de Jouvenel demonstrates, unworkable concept of some sort of equal right to space or time, we should focus on the right of private property. Only when the “right to free speech” is treated simply as a subdivision of property right does it become valid, workable, and absolute.

This can be seen in de Jouvenel’s proposed “right to buttonhole.” De Jouvenel says that there is a “sense in which the right of speech can be exercised by each and everyone; it is the right to buttonhole,” to talk and to try to convince the people one meets, and then to collect these people in a hall, and thus to “constitute a congregation” of one’s own. Here de Jouvenel approaches the proper solution without firmly attaining it. For what he is really saying is that “the right to free speech” is only valid and workable when used in the sense of the right to talk to people, to try to convince them, to hire a hall to address people who wish to attend, etc. But this sense of the right to free speech is, in fact, part of a person’ s general right to his property. (Provided, of course, we remember the right of another person not to be buttonholed if he doesn’t want to, i.e., his right not to listen.) For property right includes the right to one’s property and to make mutually agreed-upon contracts and exchanges with the owners of other properties. De Jouvenel’s “buttonholer,” who hires a hall and addresses his congregation, is exercising not a vague “right of free speech,” but a part of his general right of property. De Jouvenel almost recognizes this when he considers the case of two men, “Primus” and “Secundus”:

Primus …has collected through toil and trouble a congregation of his own doing. An outsider, Secundus, comes in and claims the right to address this congregation on grounds of the right of free speech. Is Primus bound to give him the floor? I doubt it. He can reply to Secundus: “I have made up this congregation. Go thou and do likewise.”

Precisely. In short, Primus owns the meeting; he has hired the hall, has called the meeting, and has laid down its conditions; and those who don’t like these conditions are free not to attend or to leave. Primus has a property right in the meeting that permits him to speak at will; Secundus has no property right whatever, and therefore no right to speak at the meeting.

In general, those problems where rights seem to require weakening are ones where the locus of ownership is not precisely defined, in short where property rights are muddled. Many problems of “freedom of speech,” for example, occur in the government-owned streets: e.g., should a government permit a political meeting which it claims will disrupt traffic, or litter streets with handbills? But all of such problems which seemingly require “freedom of speech” to be less than absolute, are actually problems due to the failure to define property rights. For the streets are generally owned by government; the government in these cases is “the chairman.” And then government, like any other property owner, is faced with the problem of how to allocate its scarce resources. A political meeting on the streets will, let us say, block traffic; therefore, the decision of government involves not so much a right to freedom of speech as it involves the allocation of street space by its owner.

The whole problem would not arise, it should be noted, if the streets were owned by private individuals and firms — as they all would be in a libertarian society; for then the streets, like all other private property, could be rented by or donated to other private individuals or groups for the purpose of assembly. One would, in a fully libertarian society, have no more “right” to use someone else’s street than he would have the “right” to preempt someone else’s assembly hall; in both cases, the only right would be the property right to use one’s money to rent the resource, if the landlord is willing. Of course, so long as the streets continue to be government-owned, the problem and the conflict remain insoluble; for government ownership of the streets means that all of one’s other property rights, including speech, assembly distribution of leaflets, etc., will be hampered and restricted by the ever-present necessity to traverse and use government-owned streets, which government may decide to block or restrict in any way. If the government allows the street meeting, it will restrict traffic; if it blocks the meeting in behalf of the flow of traffic, it will block the freedom of access to the government streets. In either case, and whichever way it chooses, the “rights” of some taxpayers will have to be curtailed.

The other place where the rights and locus of ownership are ill-defined and hence where conflicts are insoluble is the case of government assemblies (and their “chairmen”). For, as we have pointed out, where one man or group hires a hall, and appoints a chairman, the locus of ownership is clear and Primus has his way. But what of governmental assemblies? Who owns them? No one really knows, and therefore there is no satisfactory or non-arbitrary way to resolve who shall speak and who shall not, what shall be decided and what shall not. True, the government assembly forms itself under its own rules, but then what if these rules are not agreeable to a large body of the citizenry? There is no satisfactory way to resolve this question because there is no clear locus of property right involved. To put it another way: in the case of the newspaper or radio program, it is clear that the letter writer or would-be discussant is the petitioner, and the publisher or producer is the owner who makes the decision. But in the case of the governmental assembly, we do not know who the owner may be. The man who demands to be heard at a town meeting claims to be a part owner, and yet he has not established any sort of property right through purchase, inheritance, or discovery, as have property owners in all other areas.

To return to the streets, there are other vexed problems which would be quickly cleared up in a libertarian society where all property is private and clearly owned. In the current society for example, there is continuing conflict between the “right” of taxpayers to have access to government-owned streets, as against the desire of residents of a neighborhood to be free of people whom they consider “undesirable” gathering in the streets.

In New York City, for example, there are now hysterical pressures by residents of various neighborhoods to prevent McDonald’s food stores from opening in their area, and in many cases they have been able to use the power of local government to prevent the stores from moving in. These, of course, are clear violations of the right of McDonald’s to the property which they have purchased. But the residents do have a point: the litter, and the attraction of “undesirable” elements who would be “attracted” to McDonald’s and gather in front of it — on the streets.

In short, what the residents are really complaining about is not so much the property right of McDonald’s as what they consider the “bad” use of the government streets. They are, in brief, complaining about the “human right” of certain people to walk at will on the government streets. But as taxpayers and citizens, these “undesirables” surely have the “right” to walk on the streets, and of course they could gather on the spot, if they so desired, without the attraction of McDonald’s. In the libertarian society, however, where the streets would all be privately owned, the entire conflict could be resolved without violating anyone’s property rights: for then the owners of the streets would have the right to decide who shall have access to those streets, and they could then keep out “undesirables” if they so wished.

Of course, those street-owners who decided to keep out “undesirables” would have to pay the price — both the actual costs of policing as well as the loss of business to the merchants on their street and the diminished flow of visitors to their homes. Undoubtedly in the free society there would result a diverse pattern of access, with some streets (and therefore neighborhoods) open to all, and others with varying degrees of restricted access.

Similarly, the private ownership of all streets would resolve the problem of the “human right” to freedom of immigration. There is no question about the fact that current immigration barriers restrict not so much a “human right” to immigrate, but the right of property owners to rent or sell property to immigrants. There can be no human right to immigrate, for on whose property does someone else have the right to trample? In short, if “Primus” wishes to migrate now from some other country to the United States, we cannot say that he has the absolute right to immigrate to this land area; for what of those property owners who don’t want him on their property? On the other hand, there may be, and undoubtedly are, other property owners who would jump at the chance to rent or sell property to Primus, and the current laws now invade their property rights by preventing them from doing so.

The libertarian society would resolve the entire “immigration question” within the matrix of absolute property rights. For people only have the right to move to those properties and lands where the owners desire to rent or sell to them. In the free society, they would, in first instance, have the right to travel only on those streets whose owners agree to have them there, and then to rent or buy housing from willing owners. Again, just as in the case of daily movement on streets, a diverse and varying pattern of access of migration would undoubtedly arise…See notations.

F. “Libertarianism is anti-state and pro-private property. Nothing more, nothing less.” – Jeff Deist

I DISAGREE!! That completely IGNORES the moral foundation of libertarianism and the moral high ground that differentiates libertarians from all other groups: the Non-Aggression Principle.

“A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim.”

– L. Neil Smith

(The Non-Aggression Principle is underlined in the statement above.)

It is by ignoring the Non-Aggression Principle that people who pretend to be libertarians–i.e. LINOs, “Libertarians In Name Only” such as  Hans-Hermann Hoppe and Lew Rockwell–get away with advocating more and more government intervention in our daily lives.

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