Enough with the fancy dreams, already!–Such as The Seasteading Institute; Seasteading 2020: The Floating City Project; Discarded Mega Oil-Tanker to Village; and DESIGNED-BY-EVOLUTION Recyle Island, studies and estimates etc etc:





And enough with attempting to educate socialists here:


Stop dreaming and START building some REAL sea steads. Could have built 20 or 100 plus seasteads and living in them for the money spent on design and attempting to convert non-subscribers!


Here is Gothenburg stacked cargo containers as instant house/offices for a START.



It doesn’t take multi-millions of dollars to get started! Here is a “Sea Stead Starter” for only 175,000 Euros. Excerpted Comment from Discarded Mega Oil-Tanker to Village

2015-11-10 12.38.46

Dennis Lee Wilson

39 minutes ago

“One or two tankers or container ships would make a good “core” for a REAL LIFE Sea Stead-like complex. [3] Oh, sure. It doesn’t have the pretty architectural look of all the endless daydream projects of the past 50 years.

But empty, self powered, and proven seaworthy tankers are actually floating on the ocean TODAY and the pretty, UNtested, UN-built designs are ALL still locked up in pretty pictures and computers and FANTASY-land financing.

A personal yacht or houseboat could dock with and/or attach to a slightly modified, seagoing tanker in international waters RIGHT NOW [3], instead of waiting for fulfillment of the NEBULOUS promise of the latest five year “plan”.

Google “oil tanker for sale” or “container ships for sale” and browse the listings:

Here are just 2 examples:



And it DOESN’T take multi-millions of dollars to get started! Here is a “Sea Stead Starter” for only 175,000 Euros:


Enough with the FANCY dreams, already! Stop dreaming and start building some REAL sea steads.

THIS could provide power to a Sea Stead and fuel to visitors.”



  • Condition:Used
  • Reference #:XH-SH568
  • Status:Available
  • Price:125.000 EURO

About 1118 DWT TANKER

Build. 1954, Germany

Dim. L.77,96 m Br. 8,24 m Dr. 2,40 m

10 Tanks, Pumps 300 cbm

ME. 1x Detroit diesel engine – 810 Hp

Bowthruster. 220 Hp

Gen.  17/45/37  Kva

Complete navigation.

4 crew.

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Subject: Used 1975 Custom Cargo Vessel, Cape Canaveral, Fl – 32920 –BoatTrader.com


“Build out” this wheat and lumber cargo ship with shops and apts (no oil to clean out) and pair it with an oil tanker for power and fuel. [3]

1975 Custom Cargo Vessel

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 Cape Canaveral, FL

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Class Power
Category Commercial Boats
Year 1975
Make Custom
Length 249′
Propulsion Type Other
Hull Material Steel
Fuel Type Diesel
Location Cape Canaveral, FL
1975 CUSTOM Cargo Vessel, CGO-2640-75 LENGTH: 75.77m BREADTH: 11.80m DRAFT: 4.68m BUILT: 1975 TONNAGE: 2,640 MTDW GT/NT: 1,656 tons/ 942 tons CLASS: Classed BV Iceclass 1B for max draft 4.68m- Next SS 2010 HOLD: (1)hold (boxed) 48.5 x 9.5m HATCH: 44.90 x 9.30m (McGregor single pull) GRAIN: 3,400 m3 TIMBER: abt. 520 std. TEUS: 72 ENGINE: Main- MAN B&W Alpha 6L28/32A rated ,000 bhp SPEED: abt. 11 knots.


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FLAGS and licensure are UNNECESSARY. If I were to get one it would be? Perhaps Iceland. There are other places.
2015-11-01 21.27.41
I liked this Response on zerohedge as it relates:
Sun, 09/14/2014 – 20:10 | apberusdisvet


Iceland gave a big middle finger to the banksters and they haven’t  been nuked  or invaded yet nor any of your [you know the typical posters] many issues including Europe.    Chix are gorgeous; great potential bug out place.


The Unsurprise is that the rest of Europe [nor USAers nor Israelis Ethnic Cleansers War On Terror False Flag Alliance] have learned from Iceland’s very RIGHTOUS withdrawal / peaceful REBELLION

Proffered: Everyone In Middle East Given Own Country In 317,000,000-State Solution [but there is NO need to wait for others…]

This Is What The “Invasion Of Europe” Looks Like

The Canary is dead. Long live the canary


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 10/29/2015 21:20 -0400On Monday, we brought you a series of still shots along with a video which depicted the scope of Europe’s migrant crisis via drone footage.The point in highlighting the imagery was to demonstrate just how futile the EU’s effort to establish a series of refugee “holding camps” along the Balkan route to Germany is likely to be.clip_image003clip_image004clip_image005clip_image006As a reminder, Jean-Claude Juncker and Angela Merkel are attempting to convince recalcitrant states to support efforts to place hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers, but a mandatory quota system only served to enrage the likes of Hungary which quickly moved to close off its borders with Serbia and Croatia and that, in turn, set off a Balkan border battle.Now, Brussels is looking to provide shelter for the migrants as they make their way to Germany but as we noted earlier this week, these way stations will swiftly become overcrowded, unsafe refugee internment camps and they’ll likely be easy targets for vociferous anti-migrant protests or worse.If you needed further evidence of the extent to which any attempt to shelter the flood of asylum seekers with makeshift camps is likely to prove not only futile, but dangerous, consider the following video which vividly demonstrates just how acute the crisis has become: More…2015-11-03-16-14-54
 Divide and Conquer: The Globalist Pathway to New World Order Tyranny from an International Perspective

By Joachim Hagopian

October 17, 2015


This is long and very insightful problem statement. MAKE A COPY for yourself for future use.

The proposed “solution” is the usual  standard weak plea to “come together, unite and sing kum-by-yah”.

I believe in thinking differently: “Self government is not a remote aim. It is an intimate and inescapable fact. To govern oneself is a natural imperative, and all tyranny is the miscarriage of self government. The first requisite of freedom is to accept RESPONSEABILITY for the lack of it.”

The passage is quoted by Jim Davidson from E.C. Riegel’s A New Approach to Freedom (free copy from hard cover available ) in this article at



What I am proposing is summed up as: HAVE empty tankers, shipping containers and retired aircraft carriers, WILL START building actual real seasteads! 





I liked Andrew Hendricks comment about ESCAPING NEIGHBORS AND NATION state by putting the containers on barges  Watch “Post-zoning in Containertopia: SF factory of container homes” on YouTube

One possibility is that entrepreneurs such as ABOVE  or shipping owners (see BELOW) who use private security and insurance companies who insure them and households and property in Germany etc may be incentivized to step in and offer tankers (Seasteads) and shipping containers to offload some of the mass migration pressure in EU.

They may have tried ALREADY. Like in Katrina when private boats and Walmart etc were turned away by the government.

There are still laissez-faire Capitalist HEROES–without strategies that Enslave nor Disarm others–and that are in ACCORD with freedom, safety, protection, security and Order such as:

Shipping Owners who hire private security as a solution to pirates to thwart numerous DAILY deadly attacks on ships used to supply fuel to us all and skirt the risk of Nation State threats…[1]

The business-oriented, personal responsibility-friendly, insurance rate-enhancing approach of Shipping owners is not recommended, suggested, nor condoned by Statists.

Govt missions must be justified, sunk cost in a global police force rationalized. Politicians and their neoconservative allies, around the world prefer war, prefaced by political and economic intervention of those perceived to be weaker or less worthy than ourselves.

The LAST THING individuals/companies [NOT creations of State (Corporations); nor thugs incentivized by State intervention] would want is to kill off their supplies and their customers. Property Rights gives one the incentive to Protect and Conserve ones supply, while at the same time profiting from it (UNLESS one has a State monopoly gravy train).

The examples I provided [see link 2 for more private security solutions] clearly do NOT have a State Monopoly Gravy Train!

[1] Solutions for the Pirate Problem [AND Statism].
by Karen Kwiatkowski

[2] International Waters

[3] There IS A REAL sea stead that could start NOW with a used tanker at 175k euros providing fuel (a seagoing service station so visitors can refuel), and power for the associated cargo/container ship(s) (converted to shops and apartments) and the visiting private yachts and sea going houseboats.

Once a core sea stead is established (preferably in calm, equatorial, international waters), it can be Progressed via Incremental Improvement and Prototyping (PIIP) and testing the structural elements of the innumerable dreamland projects out there. (So far not a peep from any of the Seastead Institutes etc etc.) 

Here is Gothenburg stacked cargo containers as instant house/offices 3 weeks, 6 days ago by: kirstendirksen  staff  comments options ▾



A CARGO SHIP is comprised of many container capsule modules. It can be used to rapidly start building a composite manufactured platform (both living space AND LANDSCAPE). It already does this. It can be PIIP-ed now! There is no need to continue dreaming. Start the build already! [3] 


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I also sometimes read: “We need as many converts as we can get etc etc”.

I say shennaggins to that.

As a side note: It’s not necessary to convert nor petition others…nor is it necessary to adopt methods of those I despise to make people do things to the extent that it is a torn compromise.

Nor to social engineer…nor to convince, nor to run after people, nor to be in lament, mourning and mediation, nor to have no idea with whom I dealing with.

However it’s a FLAG/CANARY that I have very LITTLE CHANCE of getting what I want—I can find too many justifications for hanging on to–convince and fight with and roll around in the hay with–each part of my Present Routine and Co-Associations. Some Individuals still don’t know their own power. So here are the instrumentation and gears. And why and how to shift thru the gears!

The **Starting-From-Zero Technique (SFZT) is an essential means of getting from HERE to THERE. If you use your PRESENT life as the Starting Point, you have VERY LITTLE CHANCE of GETTING what you WANT—you can find too many JUSTIFICATIONS for HANGING on to each part of your PRESENT ROUTINE**. ~ Harry Browne

The SFZT is how I build my own MODEL INSTEAD of fighting and describing the present existing routine. “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build NEW models [such as The Starting From Zero Technique to align myself with my dreams as opposed to giving up what I have now, and Direct Alternatives: requires only direct action by yourself to get a desired result instead of making others do what is necessary to achieve my objective] that makes the EMO–Existing Model Obsolete.” ~ R. Buckminster Fuller mixed with Harry Browne

I have come to realize that Direct Alternatives are a version of SFZT. Wow!


To this day many are unaware of spontaneous order of individuals in society and methodological individualism and human ignorance in making calculations for others.

Mathew Reece posted this as it relates https://liberty.me/discuss/t/tucker-vs-cantwell-on-refugees/

And I posted this: NATURAL laws playing out. Spontaneous order LOOKS CHAOTIC. However there IS a self correcting taking place here.

Both Tucker and Cantwell offer strategies, mind sets etc. Jeffrey is pointing out that NON INTERFERENCE with migration will allow individuals to sort out what Statism deems impossible without command control, social engineering etc

Cantwell falls for the WE have an emergency what are WE going to do? And the We-ist traps that come from such!

There is no WE! Harry Browne called it the Group Trap.


Here is how “The Art of Being Free” P. 44 of Wendy McElroy’s ebook provided by liberty.me and How I Found Freedom in an UnFree World by Harry Browne pertain:

“…ORDER espoused by Mises and Hayek was a spontaneous one in which individuals pursued their own diverse interests without coordination by a central authority. What does such an order look like?”

Who would have FORESEEN individual European women Spontaneuosly demanding self protection (from rape) in the form of hand guns (the ultimate NAP solution to victim disarmement) in Orders of Magnitude and Scale such that they cleaned out all the retail gun outlet supplies in Germany in response to the flood of migrants in the EU. What started with a few women and outlets apparently affected a whole country!

And the same with individual refugees peacefully VOTING with their feet and fleeing from those who institutionalize the breaking of the NAP, which IS spontaneously affecting destination countries and those hamstringed and boondoggled and ravaged by the same institutions but on a slower train wreck waiting to happen.

An impossible chaotic situation caused by Govts is being self corrected at the individual level.

What better way to break the State welfare system than to take Direct Alternatives and if such overloads it and rushes it to its logical, economic conclusion–i.e. collapse, rather than dragging along for another 5 decades then so be it.

The bombed and the aggressed against are on the march.

Indeed I am witnessing another example of a 21st Century militia as being very effective–even without guns!

Freedom to Travel is being reinstated, on a GRAND scale when Statist, social engineers and command controllers say such grand scale and in the main peaceful solutions cannot be possible!

If you have issues with Open Borders they are addressed here. Better than I can address them. Including links to articles.


If you don’t believe borders are already closed try crossing yourself without a passport.

As it relates to safety and protection and shelter, in the interim I suspect those individuals who utilize Direct Alternatives such as  access to barges, boats, yachts and ships in Germany have a leveraged escape from recent mass migration flooding. Not the least of which is usually extra stored food supply and access to fishing.

“A Direct Alternative is one that requires only direct action by yourself to get a desired result. 

An indirect alternative requires that you act TO MAKE someone else do what is necessary to achieve your objective”. ~ Harry Browne’s “How I Found Freedom in an UNfree World”

Those who are owners of vessels around the world could start to offer and post craigs list alternatives outside of the nation state.

The flood of migrants could be rapidly solved via cargo ship seasteads and or shipping containers.

Will the seastead take off like a bitcoin BLOCK CHAIN equivalent? I do not know. It certainly has rapid application on many levels.

One possibility is that the entrepreneurs and shipping owners I mentioned above who use PRIVATE security and insurance companies who insure them and households and property in Germany etc may be incentivized to step in and offer tankers (Seasteads) and shipping containers to offload some of the mass migration pressure in EU.

See end of article on Finland using shipping containers.

Empty, self powered, and proven seaworthy tankers are actually floating on the ocean TODAY…

And the US is currently shipping 200,000 empty containers monthly back overseas out of LA alone.

Forget about waiting for permission for open space utilization in Australia or utilization to use China’s ghost cities…

Here is a New Model as Fuller proposes:

Indeed: Stop dreaming and start building some REAL sea steads.
connect.liberty (dot) me/stop-dreaming-and-start-building-some-real-sea-steads/

Long live open borders.

I set up my life so that Direct Alternatives are the case. It is a series of next steps. It is a paradigm shift to rule myself and want to only rule myself!

A context I hold in an UNFree world (remnant division of labor/standing on Rand’s, Mises, Browne’s shoulders) is the personal choice to FILTER and place myself in situations where I will be around those compatible to non-initiation of force principles.

Using Knowledge combined with Imagination objectified into a Creation to make that possible:



Side Note: The People Don’t Know Their True Power
By Mal Roarke from Connect Sep 2, 2015

…One school of thought leads to what I am pointing to which is each individual doing their own thing (not petitioning nor manipulating nor converting nor controlling) also happen to create a path thru the forest of complexity of Group Traps, which includes such things as self correcting pricing, making and delivering individual man power and freedom to travel (comparative advantages that come with what Mises called the law of association) to whole cities and countries, which was not the intention of each individual nor within their capability as one individual to dictate…

Some are presumably already living Seastead lives in various degrees of freedom. Some in the US keep their yachts for such an escape.

There are 15000 people living on barges in England.

Perhaps there is private security to watch over your house whilst you find birth on a barge on the Rhein?


Is it worth crossing the channel and spec-ing a fit for your boat that you want to lease or sell?

I explore this in later posts. Perhaps I should pop a note off to Bill Bonner?

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Here is a picture of an actual “sea” stead–except that it is on fresh water instead of sea water, and it was for only a weekend instead of longer, and it did not have a multi-million dollar “infrastructure”. The only common area seems to be the back portchs that are touching each other.

Enough of what it is NOT.


* Temporary Autonomous Zone – TAZ

* A Water Stead hastily put together with pre-existing boats and very little money.

* A co-operative venture for a fun weekend.

* A spontaneous structure owned by individual families.

* An example of what “Sea steading” has missed.

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A hexagonal floating platform, 12 feet on each side, where each boat backed up and docked would have made an excellent common, “party” area. (House boats like these are usually 10 – 12 feet wide). Multiple such platforms tied together would allow for larger groups and more spontaneous layouts. Such floating platforms could be easily towed and could cost as little as $1,000. One 6th (1/6) of a platform (an equilateral triangle) would cost even less!


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Building block for water stead.
MY idea of an independent Supersedure Zone…😆
A 69 foot long houseboat on Lake Powell, AZ   $90,000
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Finland To House Refugees In Shipping Containers

First the good news: with a cold winter about to slam Europe where thousand of refugees make their way north every day, and where many of these migrants have been scrambling to find any form of lodging ahead of the first snow, Finland has decided to generously provide much needed housing facilities.

The bad news: said facilities are empty shipping containers and tents. Neither has heating.

It’s a beginning!

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NATURAL Law has consequences. It will either be paid by the perpetrator or his victims.

Regarding those who are carpet bombing Syria, Iraq and Libya or flooding the world with paper dollars to pay for the debt and wars etc as being exempt from natural laws.

NOT so.

Even if those ordering the bombings and debt bombs personally escaped some of the consequences they were never the less transferred to others. Their victims are not necessarily innocent.

Man is part of nature. He is subject to natural law. Anything man does is part of nature. Including things contrary to his nature.

An animal cannot do anything against his own nature without suffering the consequences which is usually pain or death..

A man who does something against his nature will suffer consequences. ( a rabid dog can only infect those who he comes into contact with)

Man being a higher level animal the consequences of what he does may affect other animals. (Man can infect inflict consequences on people who do not even know of his existence.)

Illustration of this is. Man is capable of creating and exploding small bomb, medium sized bomb and atomic bomb. Consequences of each, effect people within the radius of the bomb explosion. Same is true with Govt and same is true of Bill Gates.


Bill Gates.. Genius or a Psychopath? You Decide


As a rabid dog will effect many victims before his death so it is with an evil human being, effect more than just himself. The person who does not kill a rabid dog allows evil by inaction to multiply.

Man is capable of more evil than one man can pay the price. The consequences of that evil are inescapable in that they are propagated and spread out to those who sanction victim hood…

People who allow mad dogs or tyrants to exist become victims themselves of their own refusal to deal with reality in a sensible and rational manner.

If you allow a tyrant to exist then by NATURAL law you will suffer the consequences of such. *Some of us are protecting ourselves as best as we can.*

Rather than becoming frustrated and overwhelmed by the futility of your efforts to “fix” all these problems—which you did NOT create, why not just ignore them and focus instead on something that you actually CAN do, which is FREEING YOURSELF!